Probation for Ohio State Football?

Tressel finally goes too far.

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     They ought to, right?  Ohio State was found in several polls to be the most hated football team in the sports world, and the second overall to the New York Yankees.  People love to hate the Buckeyes.  I see constant blogs saying the Buckeyes are being investigated for this and that.  No substance, so we’ll just make a few up.  The logic is always near flawless, too.  They must be cheating.  All of those winning seasons, and doesn’t it seem like they’ve got a permanent pass to the BCS. 

     But Jim Tressel has gone entirely too far this time.  In an Email interview with Columbus Outlook Magazine, (which is, for the record, a gay publication) expressed his views on the issue of gay participants in organized athletics.

     What we have, quite often, with our athletes, and with a number of young people in any sport, is that from the time they were 6 or 7 years old, their identity has been through sports.  You’re the tallest, you’re the fastest, you’re the best player. All their feedback has come in terms of their role as a player, and they are often hesitant to go beyond that narrow role.  An opportunity and a real challenge we have when they get to college is to get them to see themselves with a broader lens. … We want our guys to define themselves in terms of who they are and not simply ‘what they do’ with a certain block of their time.  The greatest achievement we can have as coaches is that a young man leaves us with a concept of who he is, what he wants from life, and what he can share with others – someone who is ‘comfortable in his own skin,’ and that identity can go in a number of directions.

When he was asked how he would handle an openly gay player on his Ohio State Buckeyes team, he replied:

     One, we are a family. If you haven’t learned from your family at home that people have differences and those strengthen the whole, then you are hopefully going to learn it as part of the Ohio State football family.  Two, every part of our team is important and every role has value – no job is too small and no person is irrelevant – that’s a great lesson that transcends into society. When I think of the diversity we’ve had on our team the past few years, it goes way beyond just a racial, sexual or ethnic mix. We’ve had players who had different religions, players who came from different economic backgrounds, players who are parents, who are spouses, who are caring for ailing parents, who are wheelchair bound, who are battling cancer, and on and on.  Whatever a young man feels called to express, I hope we will help him do it in a supportive environment. Everybody is important, and maturity is learning to find and appreciate those differences in others.

     Enough already!  Not only does this jerk run a spotless program that teaches his players to be decent human beings, with worthless attributes like integrity and a work ethic, and not only does he win an obscene number of football games, but here we have a poster child for the conservative republican party being open minded RationalTackling a real issueAnd with a gay magazine?  Who does he think he is? 

     Who he is is someone who the rest of the college football world should stand up and take notice of.  In an era where stories of recruiting violations and broken rules don’t even phase us any more, Jim Tressel is a dinosaur; someone who does it the way it’s supposed to be done.  But like the Buckeyes style of play, it’s far too boring.  And so no one cares.  How sad.

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19 Comments
  1. jimbearNJ
    Posted March 9, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    a poster child for the conservative republican party being open minded?

    What a stupid comment by the author.

    The left is open minded??? They want to to take away our liberty (how we spend our money, what we drive, control our health care, mandate everything, tell you what we eat (tax on soda coming, how much energy and water we use, (EPA cutting off water to farmers in Fresno to save a minnow) and impose their social “utopia” on us.

    I guess you want these clueless politicans in Washington like Pelosi controlling your life. We’ll I don’t and I don’t need them taking 65% of my income to fund your loser welfare state. The author and all you drones are the ignorant ones. You believe in BS politicans who promise you security they don’t deliver and take away your freedom. If you’re too stupid to understand that basic concept then stay the hell home on election day. Stop taking cheap shots at Conservative republicans who want to be left the hell alone from the Leftist tyrants you vote for.

  2. schrockstar
    Posted March 9, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    does “a spotless program” include the gifts Maurice Clarett received

  3. PanamaTiger
    Posted March 9, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    Ever heard of Maurice Edward Claret? Hmmm… Yeah, Tressel runs a spotfree program.

    “Clarett’s time at Ohio State University was marked by several troubling incidents. He was seen yelling at his position coach during the Northwestern – Ohio State game in the 2002 season. In December 2002, he publicly maligned OSU officials for not paying for him to fly home for the funeral of a friend and accused administrators of lying when they said he had not filed the necessary paperwork. In July 2003, Clarett became the center of an academic scandal when a teaching assistant told the New York Times that Clarett had received preferential treatment from a professor; the investigation did not find sufficient evidence of academic misconduct.

    Ohio State later suspended Clarett for the 2003 athletic year after he was charged with filing a false police report. Clarett had filed a false claim that more than $10,000 in clothing, CDs, cash and stereo equipment were stolen from a car he borrowed from a local dealership in September 2003. Athletic Director Andy Geiger stated that Clarett also took thousands of dollars in special benefits and repeatedly misled investigators. Clarett later pleaded guilty to a lesser criminal charge (failure to aid a law enforcement official) in that incident.”

    Yep, Tressel is an NCAA angel.

  4. Jimbo
    Posted March 9, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    This is probably one of the biggest wastes of time I have ever seen. I would have rather spent that two minutes watching Cookie Monster sing ‘Cholocate Rain’. No-one cares!

  5. Mal
    Posted March 9, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    Oh my g……a right winger vainly trying to pretend they are a champion of liberty and progressives are not. Joseph Goebbels would approve of the effort.

    If conservatives had their way there would be no Bill of Rights and no America. They were on the side of the British and against the Founding Fathers.

  6. PanamaTiger
    Posted March 9, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    Hey Mal -

    I suppose the government running health care and banking for the entire nation is indicative of the liberal movement for freedom, right?

    Please point out to me where it says in the Bill of Rights that the government is to provide health care, welfare and run industries that have historically been private-run. I’d surely appreciate it because for the life of me I cannot seem to find it.

  7. Posted March 10, 2010 at 12:25 am

    I don’t understand why all these occur generally.

  8. Posted March 10, 2010 at 8:52 am

    I’ll bet Jim Tressel irons his boxers before he puts them on. Nothing like a little starch down under to start the ole day off right.

  9. Posted March 12, 2010 at 8:06 am

    very interesting information. thanks

  10. Posted March 13, 2010 at 11:57 am

    It’s the right of every citizen who pays taxes to have health care for their family. We can’t all be CEO’s who are raking in the money or Congressmen with the best healthcare money can buy. Bought with tax payers money who cannot afford insurance for their own families. It would do you people good who are so against health care for the people to walk a mile in the other mans shoes. You would soon change your tune.Evidently you have never had a sick child or wife that you could not afford to look after properly. Shame on you all.

  11. Posted March 13, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    thats for inform

  12. Posted March 14, 2010 at 12:50 am

    This is probably one of the biggest wastes of time I have ever seen. I would have rather spent that two minutes watching Cookie Monster sing ‘Cholocate Rain’. No-one cares!

  13. TheJMan8301
    Posted March 14, 2010 at 8:33 am

    First off, all that stuff about being open and true to yourself as a person and search for a life outside of football – yeah he only said to appease the boosters and the general public who would have pounce on him and ripped him limb from limb if he had said the opposite. So basically if he heeded his own words and spoken how he truly fealt personally and politically then you would have heard a rant of some length with a dozen or so Republican talking points. Like all far right-wing conservatives they are homogeneous, glenn beck wannabe\’s without the intelligence. He probably is firm proponent of, \”Dont ask, don\’t tell.\” And as for the allegations that, \’have never seemed to stick,\’ that comment is blatantly false; over his tenier in Columbus he has hadmany players suspened for cheating on tests and the players who don\’t cheat just don\’t even attempt to try to succeed in classes. Its a classic case football players are \’gods\’ on campus and get away with things like being caught partying under-age or being caught speeding with their cars or crotch-rockets. My source, is very good seeing as how he\’s an old friend and he is ocurrently on the Buckeye football team. Though coach does a great job pulling strings to get his players out of really bad trouble, but sometimes it\’s too late. Like Maurice Clarette na how he was ggetting test answers to takke the test with until a proffessor caught him, he and a half dozen were doing it til they were made. Then his problems with the law really destroyed his Ohio State football career.
    Krenzel also was caught cheating on a test. They have as many individual player scandals as Michigan has in upper managment, it\’s just a fact. Ohio Statae has very low recruitment standards compared to other big-name-programs. Michigan\’s entrance requirements are hands down two times harder than Ohio States. In Fact a pole was taken by all the students in the Big Ten and they found that Ohio State had by far the lowest achedemic goals for not only their athletes. But, by setting the bar som low achedemically then you can get all great athletes and future stars who, probabaly wouldnt have been able to play anywhere else because of their terrible grades. But, by then doing this has it\’s side affects… you get the hot head players and the i8nners city athletes that do awful with authority and are in constant trouble achedemically and in other aspects of their college careers. And Jim Tressell is a total toolbag for saying that mumbo jumbo about gays and lesbiens in sports, when everyone can tell he is doing everything possible to be politically correct and its so obviouse namely because everyone knows of his political and personal views. It\’s just so hard when people know your views on a controversial topic and yet when asked a question that everyone knows what your answer is, but if you say it – you know it will certainly affect your chances of getting the best players, year in and year out, no matter what his or her sexual orientation nor their political views. But, nontheless tressell is not a man of great words, neither is he a highly intelligent man. What he is, is an old man who has old ideas – much like the Republican party as a whole. His views are so old and unpopular that he knows he cant state them in public because he runs the risk of chasing off the top talent to more, \”reformed\” schools. And now you can say his word is worthless, because he is too scared to stand up for it. If you are too scared to stand up for what you believe in than either you are totally spineless which fits the discription of Coach Tressell who does nothing but do hand-offs and quick passes even though he has one of the most talented QB\’s in the country. Like i said – either Tressell is a wimp or he is smart enough to see how ancient his ideology and mindset is and that he know how the world works but you are too old fashioned and stubburn to give up what you believe in behind closed doors – despite it being utterly baseless. And lastly about Ohio State winning, they have had the greatest ten years in the school\’s history for football, and yet it also could be said that they have had the most embarrassing ten years. Aside for one year in which they had to snap Mgahee\’s knee in order to beat Miami for the national tittle in 2002, but otherwise everytime they go up against a team from the PAC10 or the SEC they get killed. It seemes the only big games Tressell can win is against Michigan who has currently their worst coach ever in terms of coaching style, offensive style – the Running Spread – and most importantly Rich Rod is the worst recruiter in Big Blue\’s history!Even if Lloyd had a poor year, they never had a losing season, and he still had a recruiting class in the top ten in the country – now their twenty something. So Tressell and his conservative Buckeye fans can try to slam it in our face but in trying to do so they have only made themselves look absolutely rediculous. Michigan is still up by twenty win or so in the overall record between the two schools, and Michigan still has the most overall wins in college history. They just are in a slump with a terrble coach. Ohio State, because of it\’s lowered standards are able to always have great players and that\’s the only reason Tressell has won the majority of games is because of the talent and nothing to do with his abilities as a coach. In fact if he was aggessive and opened that passing game up, theyed be a thousand times better. If anything Tressell\’s conservative approach to life, politics, and most importantly on the football field is why they practically get murdered everytime they play a half-way descent team from the SEC or Pac 10. And that goes for all conservative points of view and appoaches to life, sports and politics – at best… being conservative hold you back from excelling to your maximum capabilities.

  14. TheJMan8301
    Posted March 14, 2010 at 8:34 am

    First off, all that stuff about being open and true to yourself as a person and search for a life outside of football – yeah he only said to appease the boosters and the general public who would have pounce on him and ripped him limb from limb if he had said the opposite. So basically if he heeded his own words and spoken how he truly fealt personally and politically then you would have heard a rant of some length with a dozen or so Republican talking points. Like all far right-wing conservatives they are homogeneous, glenn beck wannabe\\\’s without the intelligence. He probably is firm proponent of, \\\”Dont ask, don\\\’t tell.\\\” And as for the allegations that, \\\’have never seemed to stick,\\\’ that comment is blatantly false; over his tenier in Columbus he has hadmany players suspened for cheating on tests and the players who don\\\’t cheat just don\\\’t even attempt to try to succeed in classes. Its a classic case football players are \\\’gods\\\’ on campus and get away with things like being caught partying under-age or being caught speeding with their cars or crotch-rockets. My source, is very good seeing as how he\\\’s an old friend and he is ocurrently on the Buckeye football team. Though coach does a great job pulling strings to get his players out of really bad trouble, but sometimes it\\\’s too late. Like Maurice Clarette na how he was ggetting test answers to takke the test with until a proffessor caught him, he and a half dozen were doing it til they were made. Then his problems with the law really destroyed his Ohio State football career.
    Krenzel also was caught cheating on a test. They have as many individual player scandals as Michigan has in upper managment, it\\\’s just a fact. Ohio Statae has very low recruitment standards compared to other big-name-programs. Michigan\\\’s entrance requirements are hands down two times harder than Ohio States. In Fact a pole was taken by all the students in the Big Ten and they found that Ohio State had by far the lowest achedemic goals for not only their athletes. But, by setting the bar som low achedemically then you can get all great athletes and future stars who, probabaly wouldnt have been able to play anywhere else because of their terrible grades. But, by then doing this has it\\\’s side affects… you get the hot head players and the i8nners city athletes that do awful with authority and are in constant trouble achedemically and in other aspects of their college careers. And Jim Tressell is a total toolbag for saying that mumbo jumbo about gays and lesbiens in sports, when everyone can tell he is doing everything possible to be politically correct and its so obviouse namely because everyone knows of his political and personal views. It\\\’s just so hard when people know your views on a controversial topic and yet when asked a question that everyone knows what your answer is, but if you say it – you know it will certainly affect your chances of getting the best players, year in and year out, no matter what his or her sexual orientation nor their political views. But, nontheless tressell is not a man of great words, neither is he a highly intelligent man. What he is, is an old man who has old ideas – much like the Republican party as a whole. His views are so old and unpopular that he knows he cant state them in public because he runs the risk of chasing off the top talent to more, \\\”reformed\\\” schools. And now you can say his word is worthless, because he is too scared to stand up for it. If you are too scared to stand up for what you believe in than either you are totally spineless which fits the discription of Coach Tressell who does nothing but do hand-offs and quick passes even though he has one of the most talented QB\\\’s in the country. Like i said – either Tressell is a wimp or he is smart enough to see how ancient his ideology and mindset is and that he know how the world works but you are too old fashioned and stubburn to give up what you believe in behind closed doors – despite it being utterly baseless. And lastly about Ohio State winning, they have had the greatest ten years in the school\\\’s history for football, and yet it also could be said that they have had the most embarrassing ten years. Aside for one year in which they had to snap Mgahee\\\’s knee in order to beat Miami for the national tittle in 2002, but otherwise everytime they go up against a team from the PAC10 or the SEC they get killed. It seemes the only big games Tressell can win is against Michigan who has currently their worst coach ever in terms of coaching style, offensive style – the Running Spread – and most importantly Rich Rod is the worst recruiter in Big Blue\\\’s history!Even if Lloyd had a poor year, they never had a losing season, and he still had a recruiting class in the top ten in the country – now their twenty something. So Tressell and his conservative Buckeye fans can try to slam it in our face but in trying to do so they have only made themselves look absolutely rediculous. Michigan is still up by twenty win or so in the overall record between the two schools, and Michigan still has the most overall wins in college history. They just are in a slump with a terrble coach. Ohio State, because of it\\\’s lowered standards are able to always have great players and that\\\’s the only reason Tressell has won the majority of games is because of the talent and nothing to do with his abilities as a coach. In fact if he was aggessive and opened that passing game up, theyed be a thousand times better. If anything Tressell\\\’s conservative approach to life, politics, and most importantly on the football field is why they practically get murdered everytime they play a half-way descent team from the SEC or Pac 10. And that goes for all conservative points of view and appoaches to life, sports and politics – at best… being conservative hold you back from excelling to your maximum capabilities.

  15. Posted March 14, 2010 at 9:08 am

    First off, all that stuff about being open and true to yourself as a person and search for a life outside of football – yeah he only said to appease the boosters and the general public who would have pounce on him and ripped him limb from limb if he had said the opposite. So basically if he heeded his own words and spoken how he truly fealt personally and politically then you would have heard a rant of some length with a dozen or so Republican talking points. Like all far right-wing conservatives they are homogeneous, glenn beck wannabe’s without the intelligence. He probably is firm proponent of, “Dont ask, don’t tell. And as for the allegations that, ‘have never seemed to stick,’ that comment is blatantly false; over his tenier in Columbus he has hadmany players suspened for cheating on tests and the players who don’t cheat jare the ones who dont even attempt in class ever and in turn they are the ones out geting into trouble off campus. Yet for the most part Tressell does everything in his power to help his players get away with things like being caught partying under-age or being caught speeding with their cars or crotch-rockets or even being caught with pot. My source, is a very good source seeing as how he is an old friend and he is currently on the Buckeye football team. Though coach does a great job pulling strings to get his players out of really bad trouble, but sometimes it’s too late. Like Maurice Clarette na how he was ggetting test answers to takke the test with until a proffessor caught him, he and a half dozen were doing it til they were made. Then his problems with the law really destroyed his Ohio State football career.
    Krenzel also was caught cheating on a test. They have as many individual player scandals as Michigan has in upper managment, it’s just a fact. Ohio Statae has very low recruitment standards compared to other big-name-programs. Michigan’s entrance requirements are hands down two times harder than Ohio States. In Fact a pole was taken by all the students in the Big Ten and they found that Ohio State had by far the lowest achedemic goals for not only their athletes. But, by setting the bar som low achedemically then you can get all great athletes and future stars who, probabaly wouldnt have been able to play anywhere else because of their terrible grades. But, by then doing this has it’s side affects… you get the hot head players and the inner-city athletes who do coicide well with the authority and are in constant trouble achedemically and in other aspects of their college careers. And Jim Tressell is a total toolbag for saying that mumbo jumbo about gays and lesbiens in sports, when everyone can tell he is doing everything possible to be politically correct and its so obviouse namely because everyone knows of his political and personal views. It’s just so hard when people know your views on a controversial topic and yet when asked a question that everyone knows what your answer is, but if you say it – you know it will certainly affect your chances of getting the best players, year in and year out, no matter what his or her sexual orientation nor their political views. But, nontheless tressell is not a man of great words, neither is he a highly intelligent man. What he is, is an old man who has old ideas – much like the Republican party as a whole. His views are so old and unpopular that he knows he cant state them in public because he runs the risk of chasing off the top talent to more, “reformed” schools. And now you can say his word is worthless, because he is too scared to stand up for it. If you are too scared to stand up for what you believe in than either you are totally spineless which fits the discription of Coach Tressell who does nothing but do hand-offs and quick passes even though he has one of the most talented QB\\\\\\\’s in the country. Like i said – either Tressell is a wimp or he is smart enough to see how ancient his ideology and mindset is and that he know how the world works but you are too old fashioned and stubburn to give up what you believe in behind closed doors – despite it being utterly baseless. And lastly about Ohio State winning, they have had the greatest ten years in the s’s history for football, and yet it also could be said that they have had the most embarrassing ten years. Aside for one year in which they had to snap Mgahee’s knee in order to beat Miami for the national tittle in 2002, but otherwise everytime they go up against a team from the PAC10 or the SEC they get killed. It seemes the only big games Tressell can win is against Michigan who has currently their worst coach ever in terms of coaching style, offensive style – the Running Spread – and most importantly Rich Rod is the worst recruiter in Big Blue’s history! Even if Lloyd had a poor year, they never had a losing season, and he still had a recruiting class in the top ten in the country – now their twenty something. So Tressell and his conservative Buckeye fans can try to slam it in our face but in trying to do so they have only made themselves look absolutely rediculous. Michigan is still up by twenty win or so in the overall record between the two schools, and Michigan still has the most overall wins in college history. They just are in a slump with a terrble coach. Ohio State, because of s lowered standards are able to always have great players and that’s the only reason Tressell has won the majority of games is because of the talent and nothing to do with his abilities as a coach. In fact if he was aggessive and opened that passing game up, theyed be a thousand times better. If anything Tressell’s conservative approach to life, politics, and most importantly on the football field is why they practically get murdered everytime they play a half-way descent team from the SEC or Pac 10. And that goes for all conservative points of view and appoaches to life, sports and politics – at best… being conservative holds you back from excelling to your maximum capabilities and at worst it absollutely stunts your teams growth mentally and physically

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  17. Posted April 29, 2010 at 9:49 am

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  18. abc
    Posted November 6, 2010 at 1:42 am

    To JMan: I’m just wondering which university you attended? With your fantastic writing skills, it was most likely a community college.

    To the others who brought up Maurice Clarett’s transgressions, if that’s the best you can do, Ohio State must be doing something right. They took appropriate action in every instance with Mr. Clarett. In the end that’s all you can hope for, is that a coach will actually hand down appropriate discipline for misbehavior. Clarett was eventually dismissed from the team by Coach Tressel, unlike many SEC teams, who will suspend a player for the first quarter of a game.

  19. TC
    Posted March 13, 2011 at 3:59 pm

    Healthcare is not a right! It is a privilege. Not everyone can afford it, but that’s when family, friends, and church or community come to help, but that is not the government’s responsibility. Although, if you watch enough television you will become “brain-washed” to believe that the government should give people benefits! If we weren’t taxed so much we could afford insurance and healthcare. The government has become so large that it needs more taxes. We are going the wrong way. Shrink the government, and let us have our “slave” money back (taxes). If you don’t know it already the “media” has been hi jacked to “push” us into the line of thinking that suits the hi jacked politicians!

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